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they created the structural deficit -- >> neil: wait a minute. we can go back in time and talk about 9/11 and a recession was taking hold. i don't want to go back in history. i want to ask thufinaly, would you agree that if we get a republican president and he or she is demanding the same prerogative you want to give this president right now, you, simon, would be on board and say go for it. >> i think we should eliminate the vote over the debt ceiling, both party, both presidents for all time -- >> neil: you would give a republican the same eye am going to save this tape. when it comes to that, i am going to have you back. >> hopefully, that won't be for a long time. >> neil: i thought you would say that, touche. >> okay. >> neil: from help out of d.c. to big doings in d.c., the city is getting readyr spiffy for a piece of history. the president's inauguration on monday. since january 20 falls on a sunday, the president will be privately sworn in that day. but the hoopla is all on monday, across the capitol. and we will be there again. probably n
they created the structural deficit -- >> neil: wait a minute. we can go back in time and talk about 9/11 and a recession was taking hold. i don't want to go back in history. i want to ask thufinaly, would you agree that if we get a republican president and he or she is demanding the same prerogative you want to give this president right now, you, simon, would be on board and say go for it. >> i think we should eliminate the vote over the debt ceiling, both party, both presidents...
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if the issue is deficit reduction, getting our deficits sustainable over time, getting our debt in a sustainable place, then democrats and republicans in congress will have a partner with me. we can achieve that and we can achieve it fairly quickly. we know what the numbers are, we know what needs to be done. we know what a balanced approach would take, and we've already done probably more than half of the deficit reduction we need to stabilize the debt and the deficit. there's probably been more pain and drama in getting there than we needed. and so finishing the job shouldn't be that difficult, if everybody comes to the conversation with an open mind and if there's some things like paying our bills should not be out of bounds. i'll take one last question. >> mr. president, i would like to ask you, now that you've reached the end of your first term, starting your second, about a couple of criticisms. one that's long-standing, another more recent. the long-standing one seems to become a truism of sorts, that you and your staff are too insular, that you don't socialize enough. and the
if the issue is deficit reduction, getting our deficits sustainable over time, getting our debt in a sustainable place, then democrats and republicans in congress will have a partner with me. we can achieve that and we can achieve it fairly quickly. we know what the numbers are, we know what needs to be done. we know what a balanced approach would take, and we've already done probably more than half of the deficit reduction we need to stabilize the debt and the deficit. there's probably been...
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. >> reporter: president obama stating very clearly today that he will not negotiate deficit reduction, tax increases and spending cuts attached to the debt ceiling. this of course does follow that bruising battle the year before last, where he did negotiate on the issue, and the u.s. nearly went to the brink of default. he said that congress has to pay the bills that it's already racked up. >> you don't go out to dinner and then, you know, eat all you want and then leave without paying the check. and if you do, you're breaking the law. and congress should think about it the same way that the american people do. you don't -- now, if congress want, to have a debate about maybe we shouldn't go out to dinner next time, maybe we should go to a more modest restaurant, that's fine. that's the debate that we should have. >> reporter: in this press conference that was called last minute in the east room, president obama said he will negotiate a deal on deficit reduction but not, as he put it, quote, with a gun to the head of the american people. as you know, joe, republicans are saying they're
. >> reporter: president obama stating very clearly today that he will not negotiate deficit reduction, tax increases and spending cuts attached to the debt ceiling. this of course does follow that bruising battle the year before last, where he did negotiate on the issue, and the u.s. nearly went to the brink of default. he said that congress has to pay the bills that it's already racked up. >> you don't go out to dinner and then, you know, eat all you want and then leave without...
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that's the smallest monthly deficit in five years. some of that is artificial. people pulling transactions forward because they were afraid of higher tax rates in 2013. but for the first three months of 2013, we have a rapidly shrinking fiscal 2013, we have a rapidly shrinking deficit. so we are in a way chasing a vanishing problem. >> which is interesting, and that would allow for some things that are dirty and things that are not so dirty, would completely perhaps get rid of this problem after a while. do you think we're headed for a full stalemate? >> it's such a shame. i think david is right because we have low debt service right now. we're paying less interest on our debt than we had in the reagan and bush administrations before because interest rates are so low. >> but they're going to go up one day. >> but not for several years. i'll say it, we should be borrowing more at 30-year, 3% terms, so we can invest in the long-term growth of this economy. this is not the time for further austerity and cuts. if we were even to consider that right now, it would be
that's the smallest monthly deficit in five years. some of that is artificial. people pulling transactions forward because they were afraid of higher tax rates in 2013. but for the first three months of 2013, we have a rapidly shrinking fiscal 2013, we have a rapidly shrinking deficit. so we are in a way chasing a vanishing problem. >> which is interesting, and that would allow for some things that are dirty and things that are not so dirty, would completely perhaps get rid of this...
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i think a lot of what they complain about with respect to us, for example, our large fiscal deficits, one example, i think it would be in our interest to deal with. similarly, a lot of what we complain about with respect to them, their export-driven strategy, the absence of domestic demand, it's critically important to have sustainable growth going forward to deal with that issue. so i think we have a common self interest in dealing with many of the issues that we complain to each other about. >> what should be the core elements of a u.s.-china relationship going forward? >> the core elements of a cooperative u.s.-chinese relationship is in many respects in the communique by presidents obama and jintao of china, itemizing and developing several ears to be koob rating because it sets a framework, a framework in which the word partnership is really given meaning and a framework for something unprecedented in the history of human affairs, namely, when two major powers arise, they almost never collide. for the first time in history, america and china have the opportunity to avoid that, to
i think a lot of what they complain about with respect to us, for example, our large fiscal deficits, one example, i think it would be in our interest to deal with. similarly, a lot of what we complain about with respect to them, their export-driven strategy, the absence of domestic demand, it's critically important to have sustainable growth going forward to deal with that issue. so i think we have a common self interest in dealing with many of the issues that we complain to each other about....
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>> let me just say that the president has already sign into law about $2.4 trillion worth of deficit reduction and three-quarters of that -- >> wars we stopped fighting, already factored in. >> a bunch of that is for spending cuts. not necessarily spending cults i really -- cuts i like but spending cuts nonetheless. >> you disagree with him when he says we don't have a spending problem? >> no. i think we do have certain things we can cut in spending, but in fact right now, i think the crisis we have right now is a jobs crisis. i think it's an income inequality crisis in our country. i think there's an investment crisis. we don't talk enough, neil, about the third leg of debt reduction, which is not only spending, not only raising revenue, but growth in the economy. and you know? this debt ceiling issue is just crazy. i stand -- >> was it crazy seven years ago when your democratic colleague voted against raising it? was it crazy then? >> well, except it wasn't real and this is real. the last final -- >> real is in the eye of the beholder. >> no, no. >> i guess it's -- >> it was more -
>> let me just say that the president has already sign into law about $2.4 trillion worth of deficit reduction and three-quarters of that -- >> wars we stopped fighting, already factored in. >> a bunch of that is for spending cuts. not necessarily spending cults i really -- cuts i like but spending cuts nonetheless. >> you disagree with him when he says we don't have a spending problem? >> no. i think we do have certain things we can cut in spending, but in fact...
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so, obama's entire premise that we need a balanced approach to cutting the deficit is based on a huge fiction which is that obama's plan will cut 4 trillion during the the next decade. it will do no such thing. he's basing on a falsity, just like day one when he's been in office, distort and pr propgandize. now, republicans need to understand all of this dealing with obama. they're dealing with a man who is reckless, ruthless as any president they will ever encounter and my next guest says he has a plan that mr. bolster the republicans hand when it comes to dealing with the democrats on the issue of debt and much more. ohio senator rob portman is here. and what do you make of obama, only 2006 a vote against the debt ceiling. >> it went further than that. he said it would be unpatriotic. >> sean: that's another, i actually have that clip. you want to see it. >> sure. >> sean: let's show the videotape. >> the problem is, is that the way bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the bank of china in the name of our children, driving up our national debt
so, obama's entire premise that we need a balanced approach to cutting the deficit is based on a huge fiction which is that obama's plan will cut 4 trillion during the the next decade. it will do no such thing. he's basing on a falsity, just like day one when he's been in office, distort and pr propgandize. now, republicans need to understand all of this dealing with obama. they're dealing with a man who is reckless, ruthless as any president they will ever encounter and my next guest says he...
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he's said it's unrealistic to tie the debt limit to deficit reduction. he said it has been separate. that is just not accurate. >> sean: last 30 years? >> last 27 years every major reduction is start going through 1990s all three agreements. recent one, budget control act the reason we're talking about the debt limit discussion. so this is an appropriate time to raise the issue. look, he said people voted for him because they wanted to increase the debt limit. i don't think so. that is not what polling shows. it shows people want to get spending under control. >> sean: for a brief hour the obama media which did not go do a good job from my estimation woke up and challenged him. and looked angry on hypocrisy. how would you deal with the president that is very good at politics, demonizing and pushing republicans into a corner? what is the best strategy? >> well, i agree with you it's interesting. you had reporters saying wait a minute. you said just the opposite but also said the point just made a second ago which is why are you saying it's been straight a
he's said it's unrealistic to tie the debt limit to deficit reduction. he said it has been separate. that is just not accurate. >> sean: last 30 years? >> last 27 years every major reduction is start going through 1990s all three agreements. recent one, budget control act the reason we're talking about the debt limit discussion. so this is an appropriate time to raise the issue. look, he said people voted for him because they wanted to increase the debt limit. i don't think so. that...
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. >> i'm willing to compromise and find common ground over how to reduce the deficit, america cannot afford another debate with this congress about whether or not they should pay the bills they have racked up. what i will not do is to have that negotiation with gun at the head of the people. >> dana: interesting choice of words to describe that. eric, you talked about not wanting the country to lurch from crisis to crisis. most americans would agree and want washington to fix fundamental problems. why do we have to have the debate every three months? >> eric: sure. start with the debt ceiling and how it came about. prior to world war i, everybody was paid. the debt we incurred was paid for through various bonds. world war i to world war ii, fdr got together with the treasury secretary and set let's put a debt ceiling op and they started to borrow money. that amount in 1949 was $45 billion. today, $16.4 trillion. that is 46,400% higher. between 1939 and 1980, we never exceeded $1 trillion in debt. now we push $17 trillion. the problem with the sound bite is president obama was the guy
. >> i'm willing to compromise and find common ground over how to reduce the deficit, america cannot afford another debate with this congress about whether or not they should pay the bills they have racked up. what i will not do is to have that negotiation with gun at the head of the people. >> dana: interesting choice of words to describe that. eric, you talked about not wanting the country to lurch from crisis to crisis. most americans would agree and want washington to fix...
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we are having more deficit. again because the problem isn't about taxes. it's about spending. republicans have to have campaign communications, strategy, like chinese water torture. it has to be drip, drip, drip. the american people are not dumb. but they need to hear over and over what they already know deep in their hearts. their family can't spend itself rich and the government can't spend itself rich. >> shannon: we will see all of those things coming down the pike, how the public views it and how lawmakers will respond to the problem. always good to see you. happy new year. >> happy new year to you and your viewers. the debate is rapid fire as lawmakers weigh in on deadly weapons and our constitutional rights. >> the likelihood is that they are not going to be able to get a assault weapon ban. >> taking away the rights of law-abiding citizens will not stop a deranged individual or a criminal. >> someone can walk into a wal-mart, buy a shopping cart full of ammunition, walk out, pay, no questions asked. >> shannon: very different views on an issue taking center stage. the
we are having more deficit. again because the problem isn't about taxes. it's about spending. republicans have to have campaign communications, strategy, like chinese water torture. it has to be drip, drip, drip. the american people are not dumb. but they need to hear over and over what they already know deep in their hearts. their family can't spend itself rich and the government can't spend itself rich. >> shannon: we will see all of those things coming down the pike, how the public...
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that is the deficit. you take the sum total of those annual deficits and enter oast on them and that creates the national debt which right now is about 16.4 and change trillion dollars. now, the u.s. treasury is empowered to borrow money to make up the shortfall between revenue and expenses, the deficit. but only up to a certain limit. that's the debt ceiling. treasury does not make decisions about how the money is spent. they are simply empowered in this case to write the checks to pay the bills that are already incurred by your democratically elected congress. now that we've hit the debt limit, exceeded it a little bit, the treasury has two options. they can fiddle around with $200 billion the way you would if you're a little short on your monthly bills, paying some now, refinancing a little bit. that would get us through mid-february to early march. once that stops working the treasury needs to rely on the cash it has on hand and the revenue that comes in each day from taxes. problem is there isn't alw
that is the deficit. you take the sum total of those annual deficits and enter oast on them and that creates the national debt which right now is about 16.4 and change trillion dollars. now, the u.s. treasury is empowered to borrow money to make up the shortfall between revenue and expenses, the deficit. but only up to a certain limit. that's the debt ceiling. treasury does not make decisions about how the money is spent. they are simply empowered in this case to write the checks to pay the...
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he said he's willing to compromise on cutting the budget deficit but not in exchange for increasing the debt ceiling. the u.s. government has reached a borrowing limit set by law but republicans continue to reject an increase without spending cuts in social security and other programs. now it's not the first time the u.s. has faced such a stand off. in the summer of 2011 the government and coness mained at odds over raising the limit until the last minute. the incident weighed down on share prices. it also prompted the first downgrade on u.s. government bonds. global car makers are showcasing their latest model at the 2013 international auto show in detroit. more than 50 new models are on display. the u.s. automarket has been recovering with sales rising more than 13% from the previous year. japanese automakers are focusing on fuel efficient compact cars that are gaining popularity. toyota is introducing a new streamline model in an effort to attract young u.s. car makers including ford and general motors are showcasing small cars as well as small vehicles like pickup truck. pickup truc
he said he's willing to compromise on cutting the budget deficit but not in exchange for increasing the debt ceiling. the u.s. government has reached a borrowing limit set by law but republicans continue to reject an increase without spending cuts in social security and other programs. now it's not the first time the u.s. has faced such a stand off. in the summer of 2011 the government and coness mained at odds over raising the limit until the last minute. the incident weighed down on share...
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. >> we have dialogue about the deficit and we have simpson bowles which everyone promptly ignored. it's kind of going back into the conversation now, but the question is, and i know you've written an op-ed, you know, what's reasonable? what is reasonable in terms of gun control when it comes to states that understand the gun culture and how deeply it is embedded in the culture of some of these states? >> well it's going to have to be a little bit from all of the above and that's why, you know, your show -- >> assault weapons ban. >> we've heard from the special interest groups, we're hearing from, you know, one end of the spectrum or that end of the spectrum, but in the end, our duly elected officials get together with an open mind and they then make decisions on behalf of the people they represent. that's where getting back to no labels is so important. you know, we've got the politics of right and left and center, but we've forgotten the most important part of all and that's the politics of problem solving. representing the people in all that we do. what we are doing today is not
. >> we have dialogue about the deficit and we have simpson bowles which everyone promptly ignored. it's kind of going back into the conversation now, but the question is, and i know you've written an op-ed, you know, what's reasonable? what is reasonable in terms of gun control when it comes to states that understand the gun culture and how deeply it is embedded in the culture of some of these states? >> well it's going to have to be a little bit from all of the above and that's...
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i think the president will have to do something on the fiscal front to deal with the deficit, and i don't think he can get around ed, i don't think he wants to get around at. it will be how he approaches it will make a difference. >> charles, there are rumors circulating that republicans in the house will let the sequester said in and put him right back in the white house to do wit to -- deal with it. a plan is jack lew's a signal from obama that he will pursue the course he pursued in the first term, to spend as much as he needs to establish the entitlement state and tax at a higher level to pay for it. jack lew is exactly the kind of liberal historically who has been his warrior on the front in negotiating on this. there is no indication that lew would go in any other direction, and it is clear to me that by this series of agreements obama has made, unlike added a first term more features people of independent stature, he has gone from a team of rivals to team of underlings. >> well, that is one nomination, but the nomination of former srepublican senator chuck hagel to head the departm
i think the president will have to do something on the fiscal front to deal with the deficit, and i don't think he can get around ed, i don't think he wants to get around at. it will be how he approaches it will make a difference. >> charles, there are rumors circulating that republicans in the house will let the sequester said in and put him right back in the white house to do wit to -- deal with it. a plan is jack lew's a signal from obama that he will pursue the course he pursued in...
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. >> megyn: and my last question for you quickly he's put in place, 3.25 in place of deficit reduction, a little short of 4 trillion we need, but he would have the american public believe he's significantly reduced our deficit as president. >> which makes you wonder why we need another 2 trillion dollars so desperately now as we are getting ready for the beginning of his second term. obviously, that's 2 1/2 trillion that is, well, fanciful in my opinion and ethereal in others and it's not a reduction in baseline, it's a reduction in the rate of growth of spending, which is again suffocating to the private economy and unsustainable over the course of the next several years. >> megyn: one thing we did hear the president reference personally, we heard it from nancy pelosi prior, but the president personally talking about now closing more loopholes and that means higher taxes. we don't know on who, but he would not specify any specific spending reductions and refusing to negotiate with the house republicans on the issue of the debt ceiling. lou, an interesting couple of months. looking for
. >> megyn: and my last question for you quickly he's put in place, 3.25 in place of deficit reduction, a little short of 4 trillion we need, but he would have the american public believe he's significantly reduced our deficit as president. >> which makes you wonder why we need another 2 trillion dollars so desperately now as we are getting ready for the beginning of his second term. obviously, that's 2 1/2 trillion that is, well, fanciful in my opinion and ethereal in others and...
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if we want to have a conversation about how to redust our deficit let's have that. we've been having that nor the last two years. we just had an entire campaign about it. by the way the american people agreed with me that we should reduce our deficits in a balanced way that takes into account the need for us to grow this economy. martha: bob beckel is former democratic campaign manager and cohost of the five. mary katherine ham is editor at large and fox news contributor. why do you think it was so testy yesterday? >> obama's best form is not necessarily a press conference which is why he does than do many of them. i which he was testy for one real reason. the republicans trying to take the full faith and crucify the united states currency and putting it at fist being. i'd invoke the 14th amendment, we'd problem below know that if we spent more time with the republicans wasting time on the floor of the house. i thought he ought to raise it and to hell with congress. martha: we talked to stewart varney and kirsten said in that sound byte, this isn't about default, pe
if we want to have a conversation about how to redust our deficit let's have that. we've been having that nor the last two years. we just had an entire campaign about it. by the way the american people agreed with me that we should reduce our deficits in a balanced way that takes into account the need for us to grow this economy. martha: bob beckel is former democratic campaign manager and cohost of the five. mary katherine ham is editor at large and fox news contributor. why do you think it...
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the problem is he is fronting for policies that are not dealing with the debt or the deficit. >> another gold man sacks guy who made a lot of money while the company was being raped. the real problem with lew, he represents the president's worst instincts, he scuttled the deal in 2011 by the introduction of more taxes and he says no, and this is obama on steroids to the left. he is pushing the country in a place that he doesn't have a mandate for but high has no opposition to stop. >> let me say one thing, the shame of these picks is they small. they are inside the beltway, they are small, they are political hacks, where the president wanted to be a transformational president. he has been re-elected. not many presidents in history are two term presidents and he can be a successful president if he does something great. the great thing he could do for a liberal democrat, is save the social safety net from financial collapse. he had the chance to do it and he still has a chance. >> others would have brought some imagination. the opposite of reagan. >> gentleman, hang in here we will come ba
the problem is he is fronting for policies that are not dealing with the debt or the deficit. >> another gold man sacks guy who made a lot of money while the company was being raped. the real problem with lew, he represents the president's worst instincts, he scuttled the deal in 2011 by the introduction of more taxes and he says no, and this is obama on steroids to the left. he is pushing the country in a place that he doesn't have a mandate for but high has no opposition to stop....
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it is to pay for additional deficit spending. which i, i agree with you, nobody says we can start balancing our budget immediately. but what republicans are saying is, if you're going to increase the debt burden on our children, at least start working with us to restrain the rate of growth in spending over the next few years so we can start bringing our budget into balance. so we don't totally mortgage our children's future. that's what this debate should be about. >> you are right, it should be about that. we're going to discuss it later in the show. the idea about why we don't have budgets, how we can fix that. senator, thanks for the time to talk to us, we hope we can talk to you more in coming weeks. >> have a great day. >> senator johnson is a republican from wisconsin. he is on the senate budget committee. the fiscal cliff nan senonsense fiscal cliff and the exploding debt. how did we get here? >> we haven't had one in almost four years. >> i could end the deficit in five minutes. >> how? >> you pass a law that says that an
it is to pay for additional deficit spending. which i, i agree with you, nobody says we can start balancing our budget immediately. but what republicans are saying is, if you're going to increase the debt burden on our children, at least start working with us to restrain the rate of growth in spending over the next few years so we can start bringing our budget into balance. so we don't totally mortgage our children's future. that's what this debate should be about. >> you are right, it...
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that is if congress doesn't come up with what it calls a credible medium term deficit reduction plan. understand that fitch is not just looking for an 11th hour debt ceiling deal that sets the table for another mini crisis down the road. the federal government hit the debt limit as you know on december 31st. the treasury is using so-called extraordinary measures to pay its bills through mid-february or early march. now, fitch predicts washington will extend the debt ceiling despite the current war of words between president obama and republicans in congress. what happens if we get downgraded? it happened before. remember 2011, when standard & poor's did it. that hit markets and the wider economy hard, but it didn't cause interest rates to increase. this time could be different, however, because the rest of the world is getting its act together. even successful businesses like ford are worried. here's what ceo alan mulally told me today. >> i think the most important thing to your point is that we come together around a solution that allows us to live within our means, to reduce our bu
that is if congress doesn't come up with what it calls a credible medium term deficit reduction plan. understand that fitch is not just looking for an 11th hour debt ceiling deal that sets the table for another mini crisis down the road. the federal government hit the debt limit as you know on december 31st. the treasury is using so-called extraordinary measures to pay its bills through mid-february or early march. now, fitch predicts washington will extend the debt ceiling despite the current...
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jobs deficit. and to me this bill simply put a band aid on the problem. it did do something the president wanted to do, committed to do. he delivered on the promise to try to help protect the middle class but my fear is that in these next 3 -- three political maneuvers we're going to see that people will start attacking the middle class and i believe that this was our best opportunity to really take care long term the issues that we need to address to a balanced approach. >> so to follow up, you voted early, i was watching the board. you voted early. you didn't vote to see if it was going to pass and then vote no. was the idea that obama kind of lost some leverage there that you wanted to see it fail because obama now has to go back to the debt ceiling and he doesn't have the benefit of tax cuts looming? >> i knew it was going to pass. after the republicans walked away from the negotiations and then tried to plan b by speaker republican speaker bane thear failed where republicans wouldn't support t
jobs deficit. and to me this bill simply put a band aid on the problem. it did do something the president wanted to do, committed to do. he delivered on the promise to try to help protect the middle class but my fear is that in these next 3 -- three political maneuvers we're going to see that people will start attacking the middle class and i believe that this was our best opportunity to really take care long term the issues that we need to address to a balanced approach. >> so to follow...
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and with new york's budget deficit, it seems obvious that hydrofracking is the way to go. and, of course, governor cuomo is free to set whatever regulations he wants about that to ensure the safety of quality and other things that residents are concerned about. i would say that the project should proceed. it's brought benefit to other states. there's no reason that new york should be left behind. >> okay. right in front. wait for the mic a fun. >> you get very good examples of unsuccessful creations of new green jobs. had also looked at elimination of existing jobs like really good cost-benefit analysis done for regulations? >> the cost-benefit analysis for mercury was a travesty. if you look at the cost-benefit analysis carefully, all the benefits from reducing mercury came from getting rid of particulates and particulates were not the focus of that particular regulation. and what was interesting is the benefits focus on additional days of school. in other words, a few days of schools miss, two days of work missed because of lower levels of particulates, and particularly
and with new york's budget deficit, it seems obvious that hydrofracking is the way to go. and, of course, governor cuomo is free to set whatever regulations he wants about that to ensure the safety of quality and other things that residents are concerned about. i would say that the project should proceed. it's brought benefit to other states. there's no reason that new york should be left behind. >> okay. right in front. wait for the mic a fun. >> you get very good examples of...
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don't worry about it, it will work itself down the line and don't worry about the mounting debt and deficit. >> that's then and this is now. a debt as you pointed out 16.4 trillion dollars and rising constantly. we need a restraint on that debt. we cannot let it run away constantly. the and the debt ceiling is a restraint. what the democrats want is a blank check. i'm not sure it's constitutional because congress rules on the issue of money, not the executive branch. so, i'm not sure the constitutionality of it. if you did abolish this debt ceiling, you would pretty soon get yourself a downgrade. these rating agencies would say, your debt is just running away. you're not credit worthy. >> megyn: the debt ceiling is in place, it doesn't seem they trust our lawmakers to live within their moneys and with the money. when you look at 16.4 trillion, they're right, we're not living in our means. and there's a question, stu, you see that number, i think of my kids and think of my children. who is going to pay that number? it's probably not going to be me. >> right. >> megyn: it's probably going to
don't worry about it, it will work itself down the line and don't worry about the mounting debt and deficit. >> that's then and this is now. a debt as you pointed out 16.4 trillion dollars and rising constantly. we need a restraint on that debt. we cannot let it run away constantly. the and the debt ceiling is a restraint. what the democrats want is a blank check. i'm not sure it's constitutional because congress rules on the issue of money, not the executive branch. so, i'm not sure the...
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>> and fitch has specifically said it's because they want a credible, credible deficit reduction plan, a solution, a long-term solution. bill: which they said last year too. martha: when you take a look at the twin title waves coming at us with medicare and with social security, until you deal with those and reform those programs and strengthen them for future generations we are not going to solve the problem. bill: senator, thank you for your time and being patient. john barrasso on the hill, republican from wyoming. >> thank you, bill. martha: let's go back to the scene where they are working to extricate this woman. that's a look at her hand. they are trying to get her out of there as carefully as they possibly can. they have no idea whether she was broken bones or in terrible damage. at this point they say she is conscious and speaking with them. they are working very hard to get her out. boy will she have a story to tell when they do. we'll be right back here with breaking news from "america's newsroom" from portland this morning. hi. i'm henry winkler. and i'm here to tell homeo
>> and fitch has specifically said it's because they want a credible, credible deficit reduction plan, a solution, a long-term solution. bill: which they said last year too. martha: when you take a look at the twin title waves coming at us with medicare and with social security, until you deal with those and reform those programs and strengthen them for future generations we are not going to solve the problem. bill: senator, thank you for your time and being patient. john barrasso on the...
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we have clear issues, as pat was alluding to, with the debt and the deficit. they're not solved and the debt ceiling, while it's an important hurdle and i don't want to default and i think the president is substantively is right, we can't be a totally polarized nation and nor can we pit one against the other and is sub zero see site. president clinton got a deal with newt gingrich, a different philosophy, he reached out across the aisle. we have to deal with entitlements, it's not a question of not wanting to take care of old people or poor people or feeding poor children, i think everybody believes we should. it's how and what extent and in what way can we afford it. bottom line, i thought the president's tone was unfortunate. he did it in the press conference right after the election, and i think that ultimately, it does the american people a disservice. >> kirsten, you read some the left wing pundits and they've had it with president obama in their view bending in these discussions with the left. they think, you know, he extended the bush tax cuts a couple
we have clear issues, as pat was alluding to, with the debt and the deficit. they're not solved and the debt ceiling, while it's an important hurdle and i don't want to default and i think the president is substantively is right, we can't be a totally polarized nation and nor can we pit one against the other and is sub zero see site. president clinton got a deal with newt gingrich, a different philosophy, he reached out across the aisle. we have to deal with entitlements, it's not a question of...
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articulated as well as he could v but i think he is clearly indicated that if you are looking for more deficit reduction, a bigger deal, not a big deal, he's willing to go pretty far for a democrat on entitlements. >> i think the president is laying out some rather tough negotiating territory or maybe nonnegotiating territory ght now to see where republicans in congress are willing to do, and if they will budge a little bit. right now it seems like we are both testing whether each side intend toth budge. we've been through that process many times here in the obama presidenciment looks like another round as well. >> rose: and for most of this hour conversation with the foreign minister of pakistan hina rabbani khar. >> i think pakistan today presents a country which is very clear notice head how it operate with its neighbors and that is to try and build on the trust and then build that trust enough to be able to build a environment in i we can take care of the disputes we have on the dialogue table rather than through military statements and through military actions. >> rose: its president's la
articulated as well as he could v but i think he is clearly indicated that if you are looking for more deficit reduction, a bigger deal, not a big deal, he's willing to go pretty far for a democrat on entitlements. >> i think the president is laying out some rather tough negotiating territory or maybe nonnegotiating territory ght now to see where republicans in congress are willing to do, and if they will budge a little bit. right now it seems like we are both testing whether each side...
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you said the deficit we should focus on is the jobs deficit. >> is our biggest deficit, the jobs deficit. if you get people back to work, they are carrying -- paying their fair share of taxes. the treasury is receiving revenue. if the treasury is renewing -- is receiving more revenue, the deficit shrinks. we can grow the economy. the best way to do that is to put american, middle-class workers back to work. to me, every time you talk about stifling the economy through these very aggressive cuts to services and earned benefits, you are not helping the economy grow. the jobs deficit, to me, is the biggest deficit we face. but we have a lot of other challenges. social security medicare are among bashar not among the most immediate challenges. if you ash social security and medicare are not among the most immediate challenges. we have paid some $15 trillion in payroll tax to take care of social security benefits. how much have we actually used in benefits received by all americans? $14 trillion. we have a one dollar trillion -- $1 trillion in cash. all the trillions of dollars we have paid t
you said the deficit we should focus on is the jobs deficit. >> is our biggest deficit, the jobs deficit. if you get people back to work, they are carrying -- paying their fair share of taxes. the treasury is receiving revenue. if the treasury is renewing -- is receiving more revenue, the deficit shrinks. we can grow the economy. the best way to do that is to put american, middle-class workers back to work. to me, every time you talk about stifling the economy through these very...
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we have an education deficit, we have a skill development deficit that is closely related to education, we have an infrastructure development and repair deficit of e enormously important proportions, and you need only look at the experience of other countries coming out of the recession including countries with very different political systems than ours to see the close relationship that infrastructure investment development has on the likelihood and the pace of recovery from a severe global downturn. we also have an important and urgent need to address the issue of energy independence, an opportunity that more than ever before is sitting right in front of us ready to be advanced in the next year or two. but again, it requires leadership and initiative in washington and immigration reform, again, a subject that was discussed before. one more word, finally, about the process. and for this i kind of go back to a much earlier part of my life when i was a professor or of law at columbia, and one of the summits i taught -- subjects i taught every year was negotiation, negotiation in a varie
we have an education deficit, we have a skill development deficit that is closely related to education, we have an infrastructure development and repair deficit of e enormously important proportions, and you need only look at the experience of other countries coming out of the recession including countries with very different political systems than ours to see the close relationship that infrastructure investment development has on the likelihood and the pace of recovery from a severe global...
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difficult to get votes in congress to pass a debt ceiling, has often been accompanied by fiscal or deficit reduction measures. back in the '80s, the '90s and even in president's presidency himself he has signed four laws raising debt ceiling. three were tied to some sort of fiscal management, legislation itself. but the president now says i'm tired of negotiating all those things, raised the debt ceiling and then i will get on with other conversations with you about dealing with the sequester, the across-the-board spending cuts and other budget related issues. but not until you take care of the debt ceiling and get that off the table. that was the president's principal message today and he got a lot of conversation about why not negotiate. he said he's to the going to. we'll leave it there at least for the time being. >> rose: what will the republicans do, will they shut down the government. >> no, not over the debt ceiling. they may over the continuing resolution this is not their best vehicle. my guess is what they will probably have to do is give him a short-term extension. and then see
difficult to get votes in congress to pass a debt ceiling, has often been accompanied by fiscal or deficit reduction measures. back in the '80s, the '90s and even in president's presidency himself he has signed four laws raising debt ceiling. three were tied to some sort of fiscal management, legislation itself. but the president now says i'm tired of negotiating all those things, raised the debt ceiling and then i will get on with other conversations with you about dealing with the sequester,...
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deficit now exceeds 100% of debt gdp ratio. so we may be experiencing the initial tax of extended deficit financing. the longer-term problem is to a very large extent a product of key entitlement programs that are an important part of the nation's safety net for the elderly. the growth of spending in the nation's entitlement programs can help a program secure for current and future workers than we think that's very important. by 2035, there will be only two workers per beneficiary to 60 federal retiree who have 50% longer retirement than encouraging 1895. so this is a serious issue. currently the social security retirement is a pay-as-you-go system that provides for and no benefits and tax collects. this will lead to insolvency, particularly with the increasing number of baby boomers retiring every day is referred to by maia and lewis. others news, nor do i have the program make expertise necessary to suggest solutions, it's important that congress and allies acceptable methods to assure that these programs to retirees. reforms
deficit now exceeds 100% of debt gdp ratio. so we may be experiencing the initial tax of extended deficit financing. the longer-term problem is to a very large extent a product of key entitlement programs that are an important part of the nation's safety net for the elderly. the growth of spending in the nation's entitlement programs can help a program secure for current and future workers than we think that's very important. by 2035, there will be only two workers per beneficiary to 60 federal...
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wrong is the current problem of very high debt and combined with high deficits. do there's a large part to the great shock of that recession the. global slowdown starting in two thousand and eight and they became the victims of it now. it isn't the creation of the euro that caused the problem so much because before the euro came into being countries they could lee had a hundred twenty percent. g.d.p. ratios and greece greece had two hundred ten percent belgium had. one time in one thousand nine hundred forty five percent so they let there's a lack of fiscal discipline all and a movement to the left in europe big spending and on. and social projects that couldn't keep going it's no longer now europe also has a static population in some cases declining population and so you have more aged people more pension and bills to pay and fewer people to work to pay them. it created a big problem when the shot came but when you talk about dadt i mean there are i think two points to make because first of all has always been plagued with debt. reg its budget deficit in order t
wrong is the current problem of very high debt and combined with high deficits. do there's a large part to the great shock of that recession the. global slowdown starting in two thousand and eight and they became the victims of it now. it isn't the creation of the euro that caused the problem so much because before the euro came into being countries they could lee had a hundred twenty percent. g.d.p. ratios and greece greece had two hundred ten percent belgium had. one time in one thousand nine...
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i mean, america still has got to deal with its deficit. okay. we've gone over the cliff, now we have the debt ceiling. but, you know, even if they get over those two short-term problems, you still have got the problem of a massive deficit, which is going to have to be reigned in. at some point, you're going to get a fiscal squeeze in america and that is going to put a break on what is not very far from economic growth. i think you'll have that which is always something that is going to be there in the background. you have a lot of debt, as well, still in the private sector, which needs to be fluffed off. there's a deraef raejing that you've been seeing right across the western world is still going to go on, i think, for the best part of this decade. >> and we heard leading up to this election that rarely has a u.s. president been elected with such high levels of unemployment. what was different this time? >> oh, i think it had something to do with the candidate he was facing not being able to energize the public. but i also think, look, reflatio
i mean, america still has got to deal with its deficit. okay. we've gone over the cliff, now we have the debt ceiling. but, you know, even if they get over those two short-term problems, you still have got the problem of a massive deficit, which is going to have to be reigned in. at some point, you're going to get a fiscal squeeze in america and that is going to put a break on what is not very far from economic growth. i think you'll have that which is always something that is going to be there...
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projections of deficits that are enormous and a clear disagreement between the president's and members of his party and the republicans in congress over what to do with it. >> let's talk about this shocking report that we have both been mentioning. the global economic downturn has hit women and girls the hardest. many households have coped with the economic pressure of the last few years by taking their children, their girls, of the school to help at home. the number of girl babies dying as a result of the downturn has risen five times faster than the proportion of playboys. child marriages are on the rise. industry experts say that many of these factors are hurting the chances of women getting a job. >> young girls, young women tend to be particularly disadvantaged in the labour markets in these times of crisis. for example in greece, two- thirds of young girls are unemployed, currently. that is compared to just 45% for young men, so there is obviously a real crisis for young women. >> that is it with the business. you can see this report is global, not just countries throughout asia
projections of deficits that are enormous and a clear disagreement between the president's and members of his party and the republicans in congress over what to do with it. >> let's talk about this shocking report that we have both been mentioning. the global economic downturn has hit women and girls the hardest. many households have coped with the economic pressure of the last few years by taking their children, their girls, of the school to help at home. the number of girl babies dying...
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what's motivating and propelling the thousands republicans is more than simply deficit reduction, they are suspicious about government commitment to make sure that seniors have decent health care and whether government should make sure that kids in poverty are getting enough to eat. that's an outrageous statement to begin with. on top of that that's not exactly a great way to forge bipartisan consensus. it o it's one thing to question your opponent's policies and another to question their motives. and he's not interested in forging bipartisan consensus on the debt, he's interesting in demonizing and dividing republicans and he's going to continue to do that in his second term. >> megyn: why would he be doing that, simon? >> i think it's called politics, megyn. i think what we expect out of our president, just like we expect out the republican party, is for them to fight as hard as they can for the things that they believe in. and to be -- and to make clear about what they believe the other side is doing, too. listen, i listened to rick santorum at the republican convention say that if
what's motivating and propelling the thousands republicans is more than simply deficit reduction, they are suspicious about government commitment to make sure that seniors have decent health care and whether government should make sure that kids in poverty are getting enough to eat. that's an outrageous statement to begin with. on top of that that's not exactly a great way to forge bipartisan consensus. it o it's one thing to question your opponent's policies and another to question their...
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it does not create new deficits. it does not create new spending. so not raising the debt ceiling is sort of like a family which is trying to improve its credit ratings and i know how we can save money, we will not pay our credit card bills. not the most effective way to improve your credit rating. it was a very slow solution to the debt ceiling in august of 2011 that got the u.s. downgraded last time. so it's very important. all these issues are important, but it's very, very important that congress take necessary action to raise the debt ceiling to avoid a situation where our government does not pay its bills. >> a number of people have expressed concern about how much of the challenges actually were addressed in the deal. it went part of the way, as you mentioned. but it leaves a number of issues still on the table and traditional negotiations are looming. would you characterize that as an additional cliff that is facing us? or do you think it is not as concerning as it was when you raised the term initially? >> as i said, the fiscal cliff, if al
it does not create new deficits. it does not create new spending. so not raising the debt ceiling is sort of like a family which is trying to improve its credit ratings and i know how we can save money, we will not pay our credit card bills. not the most effective way to improve your credit rating. it was a very slow solution to the debt ceiling in august of 2011 that got the u.s. downgraded last time. so it's very important. all these issues are important, but it's very, very important that...
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it doesn't create new deficits. it doesn't create new spending. so not raising the debt ceiling is sort of like a family, which is trying to improve its credit rating sank i know how we can save money, we won't pay off credit card bills. not the most effective way to improve your credit rating. it was the very slow solution to the debt ceiling in august 2011 i got the u.s. downgraded last time. so it's very, very important that all these issues are important but it's very, very important that congress take necessary action to raise the debt ceiling to avoid a situation where our government doesn't pay its bills. >> a number of people have expressed concern about how much of the challenges actually were addressed in the deal. as you mention it certainly went part way but it leaves another the issues still on the table, and additional negotiations and are looking. would you characterize that as an additional clip that is facing us, or do you think that it's not as concerning as it was when you raised that term initially? >> as i said, the fiscal cli
it doesn't create new deficits. it doesn't create new spending. so not raising the debt ceiling is sort of like a family, which is trying to improve its credit rating sank i know how we can save money, we won't pay off credit card bills. not the most effective way to improve your credit rating. it was the very slow solution to the debt ceiling in august 2011 i got the u.s. downgraded last time. so it's very, very important that all these issues are important but it's very, very important that...
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you have the looming federal deficit, but you also have this deficit in infrastructure. what it takes to sustain mobility, the economy, society. we can't ignore one by taking care of the other. there has to be a package deal. the simpson-bowles commission recognized it had to be part of the package. you have to demand that transportation be part of this overall solution that is put together and get into whether ideas have a better chance of enactment. but what our stance is, if you simply go to the republican caucus and say, let's raise taxes, they'll throw you out of the room. but if you go to them with a proposition, can we reduce the deficit of $150 billion? can we make the program pay its own way and can we sustain jobs and the solvency of the highway trust fund all in one, i think we'll have something to go on. again, thank you so much for the cary award. we value this and i appreciate the recognition and we want to commitment our -- continue our commitment to research and debate opportunity to share with you the thoughts on this idea. what you heard the secretary s
you have the looming federal deficit, but you also have this deficit in infrastructure. what it takes to sustain mobility, the economy, society. we can't ignore one by taking care of the other. there has to be a package deal. the simpson-bowles commission recognized it had to be part of the package. you have to demand that transportation be part of this overall solution that is put together and get into whether ideas have a better chance of enactment. but what our stance is, if you simply go to...
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if you are truly a deficit buster, you actually should be for it. it is not going to happen. >> i will argue with the mathematics in a minute. morgan, the fact is that we knew we weren't going to get a full blown government-run health care system. we are going to inch our way into it. isn't that what is happening? obamacare what we saw passed a couple years ago was just the beginning of full blown government takeover health care. >> well, i do think rick makes a good point by saying it is unlikely this public option is going to happen. but i'm gonna jump on this idea of funky mathematics. this hundred billion dollar plus number that is getting thrown around is from a 2009 congressional office report. and then in 2010 the number was more like $68 billion. two different programs. and i think that is the big issue with the public option. there are so many if's and questions about whether this would make money or lose money. one of the biggest things being whether subsidees will be involved. >> mike, let's just pull back for a second. when government ta
if you are truly a deficit buster, you actually should be for it. it is not going to happen. >> i will argue with the mathematics in a minute. morgan, the fact is that we knew we weren't going to get a full blown government-run health care system. we are going to inch our way into it. isn't that what is happening? obamacare what we saw passed a couple years ago was just the beginning of full blown government takeover health care. >> well, i do think rick makes a good point by saying...
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he promised to pay down the deficit at least half in his first term. the first two years of his first term he had a democratic congress house and senate. he could have done anything he wanted. instead he put through an $800 billion stimulus bill and a $1.7 trillion obama care. if he wasn't going to address it then, when is he going to address it? he is essentially holding congress hostage right now and the american people with these scare tactics. >> okay, newt gingrich addressed this whole issue on "cbs this morning" and i'll read you what he said. "it isn't a smart fight for congressional republicans to pick, because in the end, it's a threat they can't sustain. no one is going to default, no one will allow the united states to not pay its bills, no one is going to accept the economic costs. it rallies the entire business community to the president's side." so even newt gingrich says this isn't a wise fight to pick. you may feel strongly about spending cuts but this isn't the right time to fight. >> when is the right time? when is the right time? bec
he promised to pay down the deficit at least half in his first term. the first two years of his first term he had a democratic congress house and senate. he could have done anything he wanted. instead he put through an $800 billion stimulus bill and a $1.7 trillion obama care. if he wasn't going to address it then, when is he going to address it? he is essentially holding congress hostage right now and the american people with these scare tactics. >> okay, newt gingrich addressed this...
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the deficit is much greater. when i think of the ways and means committee, would change their has been in the composition. the ranking member at a time when i started went to the world bank. i worked with bill on trade. he was handling the tax material mainly. and bill was working on health care at the time. i think a second major change is very much effective today and affects us today. it is this change in composition of the republican party. i think it has moved very much more to the right. i think that makes it very difficult to handle the problems that we have before us. let me comment briefly on where we are. you offer the president yesterday. we have had spending cuts of a trillion and a half dollars. it comes from the budget control act. we have a trillion and a half of spending cuts. essentially in terms of deficit reduction, and has over 600 billion. the account interest, we have essentially of a deficit reduction of $2.5 trillion. the president set a goal of an additional $1 trillion in deficit reducti
the deficit is much greater. when i think of the ways and means committee, would change their has been in the composition. the ranking member at a time when i started went to the world bank. i worked with bill on trade. he was handling the tax material mainly. and bill was working on health care at the time. i think a second major change is very much effective today and affects us today. it is this change in composition of the republican party. i think it has moved very much more to the right....
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assume we all want to reduce our deficits and reduce the amount of debt. do we want to do that by cutting social security and medicare and taking these entitlements and the safety net and fundamentally changing it or do we want more cash from individuals and from companies and whether you do that through higher rates or tax reform or getting rid of deductions, you know, that's a debate worth having and i think one that democrats can be in a pretty decent position to win if they talk about it in the right way. >> dan gross, thanks for coming. >> thank you. >>> next, developing news this afternoon on the latest sandy aid bill before congress. a house vote is expected tonight but there's plenty of opposition and maybe for good reason. we're spinning as "the cycle" rolls on for tuesday, january 15th. hey sis, it's so great to see you. you, too! oh, cloudy glasses. you didn't have to come over! actually, honey, i think i did... oh? you did? whoa, ladies, easy. hi. cascade kitchen counselor. we can help avoid this with cascade complete pacs. see, over time, casc
assume we all want to reduce our deficits and reduce the amount of debt. do we want to do that by cutting social security and medicare and taking these entitlements and the safety net and fundamentally changing it or do we want more cash from individuals and from companies and whether you do that through higher rates or tax reform or getting rid of deductions, you know, that's a debate worth having and i think one that democrats can be in a pretty decent position to win if they talk about it in...
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bush was -- >> i thought their one idea, david, was cutting the deficit. >> that's -- they say that's the case, but it really is they want to just talk about spending cuts as if that is going to help the economy. and any mainstream economist now tells you that you may have to do that in some ways for long-term deficit implications but that's not good in the short run. even simpson/bowles say don't cut so fast. >> and just to be clear, it's not at all clear that they actually have coherent plans for anything they're suggesting. they have sort of hand waving spending cuts, entitlement reform without really writing down a specific path to get there. >> incredible. david corn and jared bernstein, gentlemen, thank you so much. stay with us. we'll be right back. what do we want to build next ? that's the question. every day. when you have the most advanced tools, you want to make something with them. something that helps. helps safeguard our shores. helps someone see through a wall of fire. helps those nowhere near the right doctor stand a chance. ... feeling in the extremities ? no. techno
bush was -- >> i thought their one idea, david, was cutting the deficit. >> that's -- they say that's the case, but it really is they want to just talk about spending cuts as if that is going to help the economy. and any mainstream economist now tells you that you may have to do that in some ways for long-term deficit implications but that's not good in the short run. even simpson/bowles say don't cut so fast. >> and just to be clear, it's not at all clear that they actually...